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22 July 2010 6:02pm By: Rex

Hot on the heels of my criticism of Fremont Street's gauntlet of runaway street kids, the city has proposed an ordinance aimed at containing this problem and other problems (such as soliciting) under the Fremont Street canopy.

As it currently stands, the proposal calls for the establishment of two "Free Speech Zones", "Free Expression Zones", or "Solicitation Zones" (I don't believe they have an official name yet).  Each of these zones will be 12 feet wide by 100 feet long and they will be located along the Third Street Promenade, across from the main Third Street Stage.

If this happens, those who have commercial permits to operate under the Fremont Street Canopy will be allowed to hawk their wares at their assigned spots, while those who don't would be relegated to one of these designated "zones".

Carl Ferris on Fremont Street

Tips for Pics on Fremont Street

As you can imagine, this proposal is extremely divisive, and the ACLU has already vowed to defeat it, should it be passed.

Personally, I support the proposal.   

Sort of.

As one of the world's largest advocates of free speech, most people are suprised by the fact that I do not support the rights of panhandlers and porn slappers.  They find my position somewhat hypocritical.  These people fail, however, to see the difference between what I do, and what panhandlers and solicitors do.

For the most part, I say whatever I want ... but I do so on my own virtual property or the virtual property of my sponsors.  I do not cold-call people and ask them to read my blog.  I do not go door-to-door and hand out fliers with my URL emblazoned across the front.  I do not scream through a bullhorn and solicit passersby to come to my sites.  I don't SPAM anyone's email box or cellphone.

Instead, I post my messages in places that are easy to find, and I allow each individual user to decide when or if they wish to read those messages.  If they decide to read them, great, if not, great.  I honestly don't care.  I mean, I'm sure my sponsors care, but it's not something I can allow myself to think about during the actual authoring process.  I've always written as if I have an audience of one person, and that one person is my subconscious playing devil's advocate to what I am writing.  In my head, while I am writing, my super-ego is my only "reader", and he's pretty harsh.  

"Gee Rex, you couldn't go one post without bringing me up could you, you self-indulgent prick?  You'd probably suck your own dick if you didn't have such a strong gag reflex."

You know, self, I'm getting kind of sick of your negativity.  If you don't like what I write then stop reading it. 

Ass.

I digress.

In order to read what I write, people have to affirmatively type my URL into their web browser, click a link, or use a bookmark.  Some people find my writing offensive or distasteful, but the decision to "hear" my words are entirely within the control of the reader.  If they don't want to read my stuff, they can go away, content with the knowledge that I'm not going to harass them into changing their mind.  

This, above all else, is the type of free speech that I wholeheartedly support.  The "opt-in" type.  I support my right to post messages on my property, I support your right to read my messages, and I support your right NOT to read my messages.  My messages are posted on private property, and I do not interfere with anyone's life when I post them.  In situations where people solicit on public property, I do feel that the right of people to be left alone must also be defended to some reasonable extent.

"But Rex, there are laws protecting free speech.  There are no laws protecting your fictitious right to be left alone."

Well, yes and no.

Almost every form of free speech has "time and place" restrictions.  This is why it is illegal for telemarkers to call you at midnight.  It is the reason that people cannot stand on the public street in front of your house and scream advertisements through a bullhorn into your bedroom window.  Such restrictions on their speech are well-established and are quite legal.  Also, there absolutely are laws against obstructing pedestrian flow, harassment, and disturbing the peace.  In addition, public property is just that.  Public.  

I don't think public property should be completely open to commercial interests without just compensation to the public at large.  Since everyone pays for the land, any profit made on that land should be distributed equally among the owners (everyone).

Porn Slappers on Las Vegas Boulevard

Porn Slappers on Las Vegas Boulevard

Porn Slappers on Las Vegas Boulevard

Porn Slappers on Las Vegas Boulevard

The porn slappers on Las Vegas Boulevard have illustrated just what can happen when you give people the right to use the public sidewalks as their de-facto storefronts.  The concrete becomes an endless shopping mall kiosk, and people who just want to walk from point A to point B do not receive an equal benefit from the publicly-owned space.

This is why the solicitation zones seem somewhat reasonable to me.

If Fremont Street were to set up these zones, then any member of the public who wanted a flyer would be free to walk over to the zone and take one, and anyone who wanted to be converted to Christianity could do the same.  If you're not willing to walk an extra block for the Lord, then I really have to question your commitment to the faith.

Religious Sign on Fremont Street

"But Rex, this is a slippery slope.  What if Fremont Street starts moving people who are critical of O'Drama, people who complain about 6:5 Blackjack, or people who are the wrong color."

I understand this argument, and it is why I have difficulty fully endorsing the concept of the Free Expression Zone.  I mean, just as easily as they banish panhandlers to the leper colony, they could also ban picture-taking bloggers to the same area.  If we support the oppression of those whom we don't like, it is only a matter of time before we become the oppressed.

Hippie on Fremont Street

Human Billboards on Fremont Street

I get this, I really do, but public spaces must be equally enjoyable by all classes of the public.  I do not think it is fair to a family from Minnesota to feel threatened or unnerved by panhandlers while they are on vacation.  There simply has to be a grey area where reason and common-sense are used to apply to the realities of the specific situations.  Fremont Street cannot continue to be the toilet paper upon which every human spammer in the city decides to wipe their ass.  The interests of everyone else should be respected as well.

Street Kids on Fremont Street

In any event, the ordinance is scheduled to go before a City Council Committee on August 3rd, at which point the council will decide whether or not it can proceed.

I'm still not sure whether or not I will support it, but I do know one thing:

The status-quo on the Fremont Street Experience is not sustainable.

Comments Zoning Free Speech

  • 04/08/2010 2:19am by

    im the showgirl..lol

  • 25/07/2010 3:08am by Herk115

    Like it or not, we live in a society of compromises. The Supreme Court has repeatedly tackled the free speech issue since the birth of our country, and yet a solution acceptable to all continues to elude is. We end up compromising.

    Suppression of free speech is illegal. But, as you point out, Rex, so is blocking a public thoroughfare. So are vagrancy and panhandling. So is operating a business on a public sidewalk (soliciting) without a permit. So where does one draw the line?

    A) with the courts, which is where this will likely end up. B) at the point of common sense. As a veteran who spent ten years of my life protecting our sacred constitutional rights, I find the suppression of free speech abhorrent. But I do not see asking (or requiring) solicitors, posers, porn slappers, preachers, whatever, to stand to one side to allow traffic to pass as "suppressing" free speech. It is merely one more compromise our society comes up with to try and satisfy all.

    Let the solicitors get a permit to sell on the street. Let the preachers stand to one side so I can pass (and they won't go ignored...I once sought out a good-natured preacher under the Fremont canopy to have an interesting debate with him). Enforce the vagrancy and panhandling laws (since LVPD is obviously looking for people to harass, there's a ready made supply, right there).

    Asking people to stand to one side so traffic can pass is not "suppressing" free speech...it's merely balancing two conflicting laws to attempt to appease everyone. In short, a compromise. One may be a "right" and the other may be a "law," so please no one try to get me on a technicality here. Asking solicitors and salespeople to stand to one side (or get a permit) is not suppressing free speech...it's merely protecting those who went to the trouble to get a permit to sell legally. And asking porn slappers to stand to one side is...well, is asking those obnoxious bastards to get out of my face. I have a right to walk down the street without being berated into accepting an invitation to the strip joint, which on Fremont Street isn't all that great of a strip joint anyway (sorry, Jennifer...it was a good lap dance, but all in all...).

    So remember...no one is suppressing anything. It's compromise. As long as these folks are given their turf, as long as that turf allows us, the public, access if we so desire, as long as that turf allows those people to be seen and heard by us, the public without interfering with us, I'm okay with it.

  • 24/07/2010 2:05am by James

    Rex,

    Who is going to enforce these laws? And how soon until a porn slapper gets shot because his blatant lack of English makes him unable to follow a cop's orders?

  • 23/07/2010 11:51pm by rex

    wow, I can name myself rex without being blocked. you might want to fix that Mr. Rex.

  • 23/07/2010 5:43am by The Fonz

    Last week's trip to Nevada included two nights in Vegas. On July 13 my trio went downtown for a while. My girlfriend had never seen the light show downtown, so that was as good of a reason as any to revisit Fremont Street.

    I saw a few "showgirls" along the mall, posing for pics. One of them was a B cup, at best. I figure that's fine if you're really a showgirl. If you're posing as one for tip money, fill those cups.

    I saw some freaky chick in some sort of goth/phoenix outfit. I didn't get it. Kinda interesting, but I didn't need a picture with her.

    I saw a dude too tall to be Prince pretend to be the purple one. I'm not sure he looked much like Prince, but the outfit and glasses were all he really needed for a cheap impression.

    The Bret Michaels dude was hilarious. He kinda looked like him, but I've seen a better doppelganger at Bret's solo shows here in Minnesota the past few years. Not sure I'd want to play up the fact I look like that ass clown is I resembled him in the slightest.

    There was also some weird Alice in Wonderland duo, if I recall correctly.

    What I didn't see on a rather busy night was much panhandling. I was looking for the deadbeats and dregs of humanity, but I wasn't seeing them. And I was surprised. It was a busy Tuesday night on Fremont, almost too busy, and yet there was only the occasional derelict wandering through, seemingly minding his own business.

    I guess we were lucky that night.

    My gripe that night: it's too damn crowded as it is on Fremont.

    Some dude was playing an instrument, perhaps the dude in your picture. There was quite a group gathered around him. Was he playing it out his ass?

    Then there were two of those spray paint artists at work. It was a bit breezy on Fremont, but that didn't seem to discourage them.

    Add all those damn kiosks, some make your own video booth and makeshift bars outside of casinos, and it's too damn crowded on a Tuesday night in July. Add panhandling and a bunch of Jesus freaks and you're going to annoy me greatly.

    It's a nice problem to have, so many people flooding the street that some of us don't want to drown in a sea of the unwashed masses, but I presume all the kiosks and vendors on the street are paying to get in my way. And they're not badgering me, there simply making me walk around them. I can accept that.

    Let people freeload off that and suddenly you no longer have a pedestrian mall.

    I'm all for segregating panhandlers from tourists like me. Lump Bret Michaels in with them and I'm a guaranteed winner any night I go downtown.

  • 23/07/2010 4:06am by ColinFromLasVegas

    You know my position about freedom of speech at the Fremont Street Experience, Rex. I've posted crap when you were at that other site on this. And that is basically there is a choice: Do you want to chase the tourists away, the ones who are our lifeblood in order to make a living? Or do you want to make sure that freedom of speech is sacred and MUST be protected?

    It goes back and forth. The city fights it. The ACLU takes them to court. It goes back and forth and back and forth. Like a pendulum.

    One thing for sure, is that it will only be decided in court rooms here in Las Vegas.

    In your article, Rex says: "Some people find my writing offensive or distasteful,...."

    Yes, include me in that voluminous list of people who are personally appalled and find it reprehensible; going contrary to all that we consider sacred in Las Vegas society.

    Just wanted to let you know that....

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